Caveat emptor. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Oil heaters transfer heat by convection. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. Nothing is 100% efficient. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. [1], Burkett had received publicity in 2000, after making and then retracting a claim that he had been transferred to Panama for refusing "to falsify personnel records of Governor Bush",[2] and in February 2004, when he claimed to have knowledge of "scrubbing" of Bush's TexANG records. The clue is in the word personal . A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. High efficiency water heaters use 10 to 50 percent less energy than standard models, saving homeowners money on their utility bills. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). This is the second blog I have complained on. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. Out performs? Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? Buyer beware. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. Also Bob Villa states Zone heating (room or smaller area) not the whole house. A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 I live on a mountain in Colorado. Some people still can't get it. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. Heating water accounts for approximately 15 percent of a home's energy use. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! Yes if i needed a safe heater and had the right place for them. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. Offering Quality Products that are in stock at great prices and top notch Customer Service are our top concerns. [17] You cannot get more energy out of an electron than is in it. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. First of all, because it is silent. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. As the . If you are going to call names and state things are scams, what do you think about these celebrities, who we would normally feel are honest, endorsing the senior life insurances they state is ONLY 9.00 per UNIT. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. Is it reliable. No more, no less. ANY 1500 watt electric heater will give you the exact amount of heat, no matter how much, or how little you pay for it. Electric heating is a process in which electrical energy is converted directly to heat energy at around 100% efficiency, [contradictory] using rather cheap devices. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Delivery & Pickup Options - 214 reviews of Bill's Burgers, Wings & Things "New venture by the owners of the Maxican Restaurant here in Burnet. Because an electric furnace needs to generate heat, it uses far more electricity than an air conditioning unit as it works to keep your home warm. In some situations yes but in some no. The only way it would have is if I used it exactly like the Eden Pure is supposed to be used. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. I will not call this a scam. We have found that if you turn the heater on and just leave it alone, it really does a great job. Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. They promote using zone heating to save money. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. Want a great laugh? Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. So, for this is is great. This has been disputed. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. My central gas system is currently broken beyond repair, and until I can install a new system, I am heating every room with electric space heaters, and here in the cold mountains, it's running $300-$400/month (yes, I know, it's temporary madness). Complain all you want the heater works well. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. It is an older model. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. Question: Is any heater like this okayed by Insurance companies? I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. EdenPURE Classic CopperPLUS Heater $272.00 $399.00 Best Sellers EdenPURE 3000 Whole House Air Purifier by AirFree $299.00 $374.00 EdenPURE GEN50 Infrared Heater $297.00 $399.00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247.00 $447.00 EdenPURE Bio SpeedCLEAN Cordless Vac - Model XL200 $249.00 $299.00 EdenPURE GEN21 EdenPURE All Season Heater $279.00 $447.00 If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! Bill Burkett. Thank you so much! But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. And stop blaming others if you buy the wrong product because you did't do your homework. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. This has been disputed. Common applications include space heating, cooking, water heating and industrial processes. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. Is anyone anymore really honest? I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. Frame homes use a radiant barrier as a film on the foam insulation on the outside of the home. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. This heater will warm almost my entire upstairs, 1250 sq ft. Today, I had my central heat heat on 64 to try to save $$$ on my electricity. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. If a company goes out of its way to rectify a customers complaint, it not only does away with the complaint but provides a more loyal customer than if the cause of the complaint had never happened. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? A UNIT is $1000. You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. I tried to return the heater and it has been a running around to find the right place where I purchased it from. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. :). Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. Has anyone specifically gone from a traditional electric space heater (ONLY) to an Eden and found an improvement in their electric bill? I know I would not. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. It will cost more. Let me easily explain. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. If a simple electric space heater can cut energy consumption by 50 percent, then the government may wish to promote the product with tax incentives in order to break Americas dependence on foreign oil. Just picked one from trash. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. They are usually a rip-off. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. I was told that I have 60 days trial and could return it back within 60 if I choose to, but that is not true. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. See who you know. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? A btu is a btu is a btu. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. Hi everyone . (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). For those of you who have high summer bills, I saved $1500 over the spring and summer months by setting my thermostat on 80 degrees and using floor fans (not box fans, but those on a stand, those that put out a lot of air). When I phoned to know what the cost of a replacement bulb would be a year ago they said they did not have any except to put in new units being shipped which is why I waited til now to look into buying. The most common type of heat pump is the air-source heat pump, which transfers heat between your house and the outside air. The E.P. ft. You still need them. The blower came on but no heat. Stay warm everyone!! Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. They, too, use energy, but not . I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. cold in massachusetts on January 12, 2011: where can you run a 1500 watt heater all night for $0.23? I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. is way overpriced for what it does. Everybody is forsale for a price Even BOB VILLA. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. For example, an oil based electric heaterit is convection only. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. Any way, thank you. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. The machine shot out sparks. They are thu the wall units that look like AC units they are about 12k to 15k btu each.A heat pump is about 1 to 3 energy gain $1 in you get $3 out.Dont be fooled by the snake oil salesman. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). Room Air Conditioner. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). There are three main types of heat pumps connected by ducts: air-to-air, water source, and geothermal. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. Its safer than most to. FACT: Nonsense. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. HOWEVERand this is where I have to now state after research of many heaters, this Gen4 costs .25 an hour to heat. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). Smart Thermostats. Qualifying programs are: Capacity Bidding Program (CBP)* - available for residential customers. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems claims of a US-1000 or Gen4 having 20,000 hour bulb life contains as much truth as a politicians typical campaign speech. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. Same reasons. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. Energy savings will be the same either way. While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. They were not meant to be used in that manner. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. The heater is a point source of heat. long time no see stevo it took me ages to find it this is there contact, and some info ,ring them for advice ,say mick give you there number. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. "CBS Guard Documents Traced to Tex. Heat Pumps are the most cost saving product other than using a fireplace.The japanese use several heatpumps to heat their homes they use one system for living room another for bedrooms this helps lower energy bills. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. I just needed to confirm that there hadn't been a major scientific breakthrough that makes free energy.
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