Seems to me that if that part of the story were true, and she really wanted to find her childrens shooter, she would have provided that information. We will never know what really happened because the authorities acted too hastily and the media was a huge hindrance. Steve knew Danny was not his biological child and left Downs. It was faulty. Aint no one gonna tarnish my guys lol. This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. I like to believe the best about people too but there are certain things that absolutely cant be ignored. They examined her clothes also. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular. It was pretty apparent during the course of this saga that the media and the state were willing to give a free pass to anyone willing to badmouth Diane. For all you readers of this blogger, I lived through the Diane Downs case. Moms were working more, we were becoming the latch key generation, as in we let ourselves in alone while still in elementary school.when I mentioned before about maturity of a 8, 9, 10 year oldwe loved playing outside on bikes, and playing with our dolls, boys usually had their action figures..lol.and we loved our moms, even if they were young and liked to go out and sent us to babysitters..the book and movie, Im quite sure, over did the situation..and Im sure there was more on both sides, the family of diane, diane herself, but well never know all the details. Mr. How do you expect the daughter to have any fair understanding of the situation or any decent contact with Dianes family when the people who have been calling her mother a murderer and a monster are dragging her in the media spotlight in the hope of writing another book or getting a new scoop, but all one sided. I have plans to go hunting with the husband of one of the alternates.. I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. Teams of people and detectives combed the area for months looking for the gun but it was nowhere to be found. She threw her keys yet was able to take off right away?? They hated her attitude and thought she was promiscuous and showed no sorrow or remorse. I dont know either if she is guilty or not, but I believe there is a reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances. You hit the nail right on the head. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? They were tons of witnesses that saw him at work. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. This is what Mrs Downs had to say about the situation. However, in 1980, the couple divorced. They were in a group home and he was getting unsupervised visitation with them. PAY ATTENTION: Install our latest app for Android, read best news on Kenyas #1 news app. Doing it without witnesses when she was so sick is underhanded. They said so and were told to go back to deliberate. So I start with that bit of history in mind. Nevertheless, what was done seemed out of our hands and we could have no contact with them at all. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. Diane was in the hospital for a bone graft from June 2nd until June 6th, 1983. In her book, Ann Rule made sure to mention that running water was heard by a dispatcher when Diane was at the hospital; insinuating that she was washing her hands and getting rid of evidence. McPherron: And you had no contact with her . That poor girl. Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom. I ndicted money launderer and noted coup enthusiast Steve Bannon has refused to sit for a deposition in front of the January 6 Select Committee. The last time I checked, it is my website and if you find it tiresome, no one is inviting you to stay or read the content; which you evidently did not read anyway. I actually can relate to things she did and was like, especially chasing after a guy that dont want youi did one night stands during my chase..to try to get over himits was a dumb idea and really made things worse, but it made sense at the time. Libby, I quoted what Diane said. They made her out to be a monster, but in Beckys case, it becomes redeemable. Diane and her family fought for them but were blocked from day one. That is pure bullshit. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. There were days she was unhappy to see the staff and her family because she was very ill. That poor girl had a lot of bad moments where she would cry constantly or trigger the machines and to have defined this single incident as one of terror instead of excitement over seeing her mom was biased and self-serving. lol. Do not take this so personally. Accused of her side of the story what the state says how would it be possible for her to do what they presumed. It's not even known if he still resides in Arizona, where he used to live with Diane and their three kids. GSR can easily fall off just by brushing your hand against a surface. And he grew up there. I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. Now if the shooter was this James Haynes guy, someone who apparently Diane Downs knew from buying drugs, then that would explain why she stopped in the middle of that road. Also, aside from her original mental state, which may or may not excuse her aloofness (doesnt prove shes a killer by the way! They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. They should have taken their timeto investigatethis case thoroughly and without prejudice. It became more about despising Diane Downs than investigating fairly. Every single one. Clearly the social workers were working with the DAs office and taking advice on best interest of the children from them. My question is: why is she still locked up? Hugi got the evidence needed to convict after numerous meetings with Christie. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. Maybe that her mom was obviously not well after spending her life in prison so it would have been a good idea to meet the Downss family quietly and get the jest of it. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children. Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. So, why didn't Steve Downs get custody? Dianes ex-lover, Robert Knickerbocker, also said the same. Diane, of her own admission, had plenty of affairs while she worked at the Post Office. 4.Diane was NOT arrested for almost a year after the shootings the d.a. In the moment of who shot youmy momhave a hard time believing that could be coached. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? I never read the Ann Rule book, but saw Small Sacrifices as a kid and have had an interest in this case ever since. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, Why did the mean man shoot me? and it would be written down in the daily notes. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. The answers to those questions do not matter anymore. Why arent you debating the faulty ballistics, and the fact that the gun they affirmed was used in the commission of the crime was not the right one? She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. Lets not take that lightly. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane pulled over her car by the side of the road in Springfield, Oregon and shot her children multiple times with a 22-calibre pistol. Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. Was that Annes fault as well? Mission accomplished: Relevance? Distractify is a registered trademark. Page 26 of Case History. She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. Another significant development about the children is that Danny is great with computers but is still paralyzed from the bullet that hit his back but is leading a regular life. Further: Wonder about Justice in Nation with world wide highest prisoner rate. Diane had learned from nine months of interaction with Knick, that the man was consistent only in his inconsistency. I personally dont think she is innocent but that isnt the point. So many of the cases Lise writes about on this blog either have no forensic evidence that supports the verdict or have very misleading forensic evidence that may or may not support the verdict, depending on who is interpreting it. Knicks habit of turning on and turning off their relationship was known to Diane long before he admitted it in court a year later (Appendix 81, page 1520, line 21): Q. Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. Which is itself a redundant practise: the blogger repeatedly states that Downs should be released. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. But they tended to ignore other important aspects. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. Either way he could NOT have seen who shot him unless he has eyes in the back of his head. Despite all these misgivings, they chose to stay strong in the marriage and had their first child, Christie Ann, in 1974. Let me tell you, it wasnt just the investigators and the prosecution that didnt believe herwe, Oregonians, (who ACTUALLY live here and watched what was happening) believe she is guilty. I am not from USA, never have been there, but my impression is that in USA media are far more powerful than the justice system and rational thinking is crushed by easy emotional moods, stereotypes and a hunger for violence coated in a pompous moral attitude. The first two children were Diane's kids with her ex husband Steve Downs. I look forward to reading your other blogs. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. We dont know what the Hugi family was doing during this time, probably seeing the kids regularly and getting licensed and approved to take the kids home with them. She even became a surrogate mother to make money and provide two parents the opportunity to have a child. A test for the presence of gunshot residue conducted on Dianes hands the night of the shooting, returned a negative result (Appendix 23). But what happened to Diane Downs' husband? Wow. Ur not showing facts that Ann Rule lied n misled n ruined lives with. Fred Hugi is a man of the highest integrity and I hope that Dianes surviving two children finally found the love and stability they had been denied by their natural mother. Shes where she belongs. According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. It means you dont orphan the kids. I always welcome new information, evidence and opinions if they have a strong base and are not mean spirited, but I dont get the relevance of this comment to the case itself. Everyone in the world can believe something. The details about the gun missing, the daughters testimony and the fact that she had no blood or gun residues are facts. Dianewas jealous ofthe other woman, but Robert Knickerbockers wife said that she foundher rather friendly during their encounter. Comments about the title of the website, the blogger, the bias, details like the word bipolar and when it was used when cyclothymic disorder was diagnosed by the person who treated the subject and there is an affidavit posted. I will not remove anything. she chose to stay with Manson and his misfits. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy. By many accounts, her children adored her. Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for 6 months in 2011, and there was also talk of a suspension in 2015. If you read the blog, you will see examples of his lack of dedication. She did not have the opportunity to clean her hands with the right product to erase all traces and she was tested pretty fast, contrary to many other cases. This unhealthy marriage survived and became a daily struggle. There were good reasons to look at this mother, but the detective admitted on the stand that they stopped looking at anyone else after two weeks and the stranger on the road became a joke. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial parent after the divorce. She did not fit in and was now anxious to assert her independence and live her own life. They rarely are, especially in the US. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it. They did not like her attitude and she did not behave the way they expected a grieving mother to act. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. Critics said she deliberately became pregnant in order to garner sympathy from the jury. But in my opinion, it shows how Diane was disturbed and could also have found a better path in life if given the chance and the right support. Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. Theres a lot to be said here, still. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. Basically then at that I asked her brother James an answer to your question. It sounds pretty fair to me. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. It can safely be presumed, other children told their parents, and that some of those parents reported the disturbing revelation to states Attorney, Prosecutor Fred Hugi. Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. The prescribed normal dosage for a full grown man is 30 milligrams per day. She is a monster and belongs in prison for the rest of her life. I am just curious. And if she did it, she has served her time without displaying any violent tendencies whatsoever. It was pitch black outside. She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done. He is in his 70s now and his photo is not on his linkedin or anywhere I could find. The lack of balance and objectivity. I wanted to ask you something on this case. I also found it curious that when Diane was first eligible for parole she was allowed to apply every 2 years thereafter until she either gets paroled or dies in prison. She met Robert "Nick" Knickerbocker and started having a relationship with him earlier. After graduating high school, Steve went on to join the Navy, and Diane, having a strict religious background, was sent to the Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College. And she went back to her parent's home in Arizona. And they kept at her and made suggestions when she would not implicate her mom. I wish she could get a new look. I was curious as to what these requirements were, as I have not seen these online. Very little is definitively known in this area. Its more boring to tell the truth and the readers might not have flocked to read a fair story without no real heroes and villains. Anyways. Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. Nobody ignored Dianes demeanor. However, Elizabeth was expelled from the religious institution as she didn't conform to the school's strong religious values. Only the people who present ongoing threats to the safety of the public in general are the ones this sentence is reserved for. Some of your facts arent facts at all. She unwillingly followed the cops in spite of being in pain and not wanting to leave the premises. John Shea who played Fred in the TV movie Small Sacrifices even looks like him. Dianes parents had high hopes for her future, a future that didnt involve Steve, so they disapproved of their relationship.
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